Vol 20 - No. 3 March 2003

The HUG UpDate

The Harrisburg pc User Group© (HUG) Newsletter since 1983

Available Monthly at www.HrbgUG.org




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HUG News

New Meeting Room for HUG General Membership Meetings --

Starting with the March 11th, 2003 HUG General Membership Meeting, we will no longer be meeting in the large downstairs meeting room. Instead, we will be meeting in a smaller upstairs room. So, starting this month, come in main door at the front of the church (south), turn right (west) and walk to end of hallway, then turn left (south). The new meeting room is on left side of hall.

The new room is smaller and is better suited to our style of meetings. Cable Internet service is available in the new room. This will be a big advantage for our meetings.


Computer Show Format Change --

The following information is [edited] from MarketPro's web site:

IMPORTANT SHOW NOTICE --

MarketPro is teaming up with World Discount Club for select shows. MarketPro is co-producing several shows with the famous SUPER SALE promoters, World Discount Club. It's the same great computer show but now we have added amazing deals on home electronics, car audio equipment, clothing, shoes, watches, CD's, DVD's, perfumes, vacuums cleaners, and more! Millions of Dollars in Merchandise at INCREDIBLE PRICES all under one roof! EVERYTHING UP TO 80% OFF! Look for the savings at these great shows:

Mar 21-23 Farm Show Complex, Harrisburg, PA

3 DAY SHOW: Fri 12pm-10pm Sat. 10am-9pm Sun. 11am-6pm

CASH FOR INKJET CARTRIDGES!

Bring your empty CANON*, HP, or LEXMARK labeled ink cartridges to the following computer shows and receive $2 CASH per cartridge! SK BUSINESS SUPPLIES representatives will be at their booth inside the show to collect the cartridges.

*Only Canon cartridges model # BC02, BC20, BC21E, BX3, and CC05


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Schedule of HUG Activities

March 2003 HUG Meetings

  • March 11th [2nd Tuesday] - General Membership Meeting 6:30~9:00 PM
  • March 16th [3rd Sunday] - Computer Workshop 2:00~4:00 PM
  • March 20th [3rd Thursday] - Executive Board Meeting 6:00 PM

March 2003 Computer Shows *

  • March 1st-2nd [Sat-Sun] - Allentown Fairgrounds
  • March 15th-16th [Sat-Sun] - York Expo Center
  • March 21st-23rd [Fri-Sat-Sun] - Farm Show Complex, Harrisburg [See News Section]
  • March 22nd-23rd [Sat-Sun] - Maryland State Fairgrounds at Timonium, MD

April 2003 HUG Meetings

  • February 8th [2nd Tuesday] - General Membership Meeting 6:30~9:00 PM
  • February 17th [3rd Thursday] - Executive Board Meeting 6:00 PM
  • February 20th [3rd Sunday] - Computer Workshop 2:00~4:00 PM

April 2003 Computer Shows *

  • April 5th-6th [Sat-Sun] - Allentown Fairgrounds
  • April 5th-6th [Sat-Sun] - Maryland State Fairgrounds at Timonium, MD
  • April 12th-13th [Sat-Sun] - Lancaster Host Resort
  • April 12th-13th [Sat-Sun] - Lebanon Valley Expo Center

* Remember to always check the MarketPro  web site show schedule for possible
   last-minute cancelations before traveling to computer shows.

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HUG Meetings

HUG General Membership Meetings

Notes from the February General Membership Meeting --

There were 12 members and 1 guest present at the February 11th General Membership Meeting.

The scheduled presentation for February was "Hard Drives, Partitions, and Multiple Operating Systems" by Lou Samsel. Lou gave a brief tutorial and demonstration about:

  1. How to select a Hard Drive for purchase
  2. How to physically install a Hard Drive (in a Desktop and a Laptop Computer)
  3. Setting the computer's BIOS to recognize a new Hard Drive
  4. Partitions and what are they used for
  5. Deciding what Partitions you need
  6. Managing your Partitions using the fdisk utility
  7. Formatting your Partitions using the format utility
  8. The Boot Process
  9. Installing a single Operating System
  10. Installing Multiple Operating Systems on a single Hard Drive
  11. The Joy of Multiple Operating Systems
  12. Troubleshooting Partitioning, Formatting, and OS Booting Problems

Lou demonstrated how to partition a hard drive and how to format it by going through the process step-by-step on a working computer. He also demonstrated various hard drive problems and how to solve them. The group partition was lively throughout the demonstration.

A Q&A session followed the presentation. Several members got answers/solutions to their computer questions/problems. The meeting broke up shortly after 9:00 PM.



Coming up in March 2003 --

The scheduled presentation for March is "All About Usenet" by Bob Grabau. Bob will explain:

  • What Usenet is
  • How to find it through your ISP
  • For charge usenet news service (monthly fees)
  • What's available: Sources of/for news groups, MP3s, videos, pix, music, multimedia, hobby stuff, computer info. ~ 43K groups in all

The Usenet presentation is tentatively scheduled for March, depending on Bob's busy work schedule. If Bob is unavailable then an alternate demonstration will be given.

A Q&A by/for all attendees will follow, if time permits



Coming up in April 2003 --

April 2003: Scheduled Presentation - "MP3 and DVD" by Hazen Meek. Hazen will explain all about how to create your own MP3s and DVD. He will cover most of the basics and let the members see the possibilities for themselves. In his demonstration, Hazen will:

  1. Show the members a DVD player and Power DVD Software.
  2. Show members how they can copy their own DVDs on their computer and DVD writer.
  3. Take a CD and convert it to a DVD using their computer and DVD writer.
  4. Show how members can get other DVD files from a Napster-like company.
  5. How to rip a DVD -- simular to ripping an MP3.
  6. Show them a clip from a DVD movie so they can actually see that the computer will play a downloaded one.
  7. Introduce the latest MP3 Windows Media Player, Version 9, and demonstrate its abilities.
  8. Introduce substitutes for Napster -- Kazaa and Morphious.
  9. Show us where to get MP3 and DVD files via the Internet and Usenet.


At past HUG meetings, Hazen's demonstrations of audio related software have always been interesting and informative. His experience includes working in the music studios in Nashville TN. He has also written successful radio ads accompanied with his original music and lyrics.



Coming up in May 2003 --

May 2003: Scheduled Presentation - "Antique Computers" by Bob Grabau. Bob will bring his collection of antique computers to demonstrate and discuss. This presentation was given several years ago and was a huge hit.



Coming up in June 2003 --

June 2003: Scheduled Presentation - "What's New with Linux" by Lou Samsel. Lou will demonstrate and discuss the two most popular Linux Releases, Red Hat and Mandrake, and explain their differences and similarities. Other, less popular, Linux distributions, such as S.u.S.E. Linux, Corel Linux, and Turbo Linux wil also be discussed.

Lou will also demonstrate the new DemoLinux CD that allows you to run Linux without installation, disk partitioning, or other hassles that usually prevent people from giving Linux a try. This CD does not install Linux on your hard disk. Instead, it runs from the CD and, therefore, allows you to play with it at lenght before you eventually decide to proceed with a full fledged installation. [Copies of Demo Linux Version 3 will be available at the meeting, on a limited basis, for a small donation charge.]

Popular, stand-alone Linux applications will be discussed as well as applications that run on both Linux and Windows OSs. This includes Office Suites that replace MicroSoft's expensive, yet limited, MS Office suite.

After Lou's demonstrations, Norm Wagner will lead a Linux specific Q&A session. Norm, Lou, Bob Grabau, Dennis Mumma, and other Linux users will be on hand to answer your questions about Linux.

Norm will also explain why other countries in Europe, South America, Africa, and Asia are shunning Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Office, and Microsoft programming software and adopting Linux as their national "standard" software.

How you can obtain the various Linux distributions for free (or at a low cost) and how you can learn more about Linux for free (or at a low cost) will be covered.

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Note 1: The above schedule is tentative. It is subject to change as most presenters must schedule these presentations in conjunction with their normal, professional work schedules. Meetings will be held even if the scheduled presentation is canceled -- an alternate presentation will be substituted if possible.

Note 2: Anyone with a proposed presentation should contact either the HUG President or the First Vice President to schedule it.



HUG Computer Workshops

About The HUG Workshops --

The HUG Computer Workshop (formerly known as the DOS/Windows SIG), where beginners' questions are answered and problem computers are analyzed for free, is held on the THIRD SUNDAY of each month, from 2:00 to 4:00 PM. If you are new to computers and would like a little coaching in basic computer operations or if you just need to have some techno-speak decoded, then this is where you want to be.

Alternately, if you are an experienced computer user, but are having hardware or software problems you can't solve on your own, you can still come out.

We will handle all your computer problems one-on-one in separate areas of the large, comfortable workshop hall.

We also have a limited supply of computer components for sale at the workshops in case you need computer parts, cheap. See the For Sale section of this newsletter for details about out current parts inventory.



Linux SIG Meetings

The Linux SIG (HAL) is held concurrently with the HUG Computer Workshop at 2:00 in the Skyline View Church. If you are an experienced Linux user and wish to participate in a Linux discussion session, or if you are want to learn what Linux is about, then this SIG is for you. Guests are welcome.

Norm Wagner has suggested that an additional monthly Linux (only) meeting be scheduled. If anyone has any desire to attend a Linux only meeting notify Norm at normwag@comcast.net with your comments.


HUG Executive Board Meetings

The HUG Executive Board Meetings are held at Little Joe's Pizza (formerly Brian's Pizza) in the Swatara Square Shopping Center across from the east shore Wal-Mart. The center is bordered by Route 322, Mushroom Hill Road, and Grayson Road. Board meetings are always open to the public. Here is where we handle the club's monthly business -- so there are no demonstrations nor hands-on help. But if you would like the club to benefit from your input on policies and procedures or you'd like to volunteer, then this is the place to be. Meetings start at 6:00 PM and run about an hour or until the club's business is completed.

The Thursday, December 19th HUG Executive Board Meeting was canceled due to the Holidays.


Meeting Locations --

Remember, General Membership Meetings are held on the SECOND TUESDAY of each month from 6:30~9:00 PM in the Skyline View Church, 7733 Hillcrest Avenue, Harrisburg. Skyline View Church is on Jonestown Road (Rt. 22) just 6/10 of a mile west of Rt. 39. It's on the south side of the highway, next to a Fulton Bank and across the highway from a Getty-Mart. Share the experience and bring a friend.

Workshops are held on the THIRD SUNDAY of each month from 2:00~4:00 PM the above location. Visitors with problems are welcome but members are given priority with assistance.

HUG Executive Board Meetings are held the THIRD THURSDAY of each month at 6:00 PM in Little Joe's Pizza [formerly Brian's Pizza] in the Swatara Square Shopping Center across from the east shore Wal-Mart. The Swatara Square is bordered by Route 322, Mushroom Hill Road, and Grayson Road. All current members are welcome.


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Computer Shows

Upcoming Shows - There is a three-day show scheduled for the Harrisburg Farm Show coming up. See the Schedule of HUG Activities for the exact dates. If you are interested in volunteering to man the table then email (or call) John or Lou.

There are several benefits in helping at HUG computer show table. One, you get FREE admission to the show. Two, you frequently get a "vendor's discount" from the many vendors at the show - sometimes 10% on the more expensive items such as drives, processors, memory, cards, software, etc. Three, we take breaks from the HUG table so you still have the opportunity to walk around, shop, and enjoy the show. Four, you learn something interesting and useful from the other HUG members and the helpful vendors at every show. Five, you get the satisfaction of helping someone who knows even less about computers than you do by answering their easy questions - that's satisfaction and an ego boosting experience.

So how about it? Send either John or Lou an e-mail message now and they will remind you in January so you don't forget and miss a great computer show.

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Important Reminders and Information

Your Current Email Address --

You must provide us with your correct and current address and inform us of any changes. The best way to do this is to e-mail Lou Samsel and John Reinhardt from the address you wish to use. (Please place "HUG" at the beginning of the e-mail's Subject Field.)

     Lou Samsel -- HUG President at: lou.samsel@pa.net

     John Reinhardt -- HUG Treasurer at: jreinhardt@state.pa.us

Snailmail to the HUG official address works too.

This eliminates typographical errors at both ends as well as handwriting misinterpretations. If you are planning on leaving one ISP for another, we recommend overlapping them for a few months so we have time to change your address without our getting "invalid address" messages when we send you announcements.

Remember, this is your responsibility.


Official HUG Mailing Address --

The new Official Hug Mailing Address, effective November 1st, is:

     Harrisburg pc User Group (HUG)
     Attn: Membership Director [optional line for membership applications and payments]
     38 Windsor Way
     Annville, PA 17003

Please use this new address, starting November 1st, on all U.S. Mail correspondence including new membership applications and dues payments.



Donations to HUG --

Modern and usable software and hardware donations are appreciated. No DOS software or 386, 486 hardware, please -- there is just no use for it. Donations may be dropped off at any HUG meeting. Your donation may be tax deductible for Federal Income Tax purposes -- see our Treasurer John for details.



Membership --

Membership in HUG has many advantages including: admission to all HUG meetings including SIGs, elegibility for door prizes (when available) at General Membership Meetings, priority over non-members for free technical assistance with computer related problems at all HUG Computer Workshops, elegibility to volunteer to work at the HUG Computer Show Table and win annual volunteers' prizes, discounts on all "For Sale" items, and other benefits that I can't think of at the moment.

To renew your HUG Membership, please snailmail your $15 check, made out to "Harrisburg pc User Group", to the New HUG Official Mailing Address:

     Harrisburg pc User Group (HUG)
     Attn: Membership Director [optional line for membership applications and payments]
     38 Windsor Way
     Annville, PA 17003

Alternately, you may bring your check or cash, for $15, to any HUG Meeting.

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Wanted or For Sale

Newsletter Editor Wanted --

Lou Samsel and Dennis Mumma are filling in as newsletter editors until a volunteer for this position comes foreward. This position would look good on anyone's resume. You have the opportunity to style and provide content as you choose. Anyone interested should contact Lou Samsel.


List of Links to Microsoft Sites Needed --

We still need a few people to submit a List of Links to Microsoft Sites. The last section of this newsletter contains links to interesting and informative Linux sites. There are no Microsoft Windows sites listed -- I know this because some of you have told me so. This is not an oversight. If anyone wishes, you can prepare a list of addresses (first) and site names (second) for whatever Microsoft Windows sites that you think the other readers of this newsletter might be interested in visiting. No commercial ($$$) sites, please. We're not providing free advertising without quid pro quo. E-mail this list to Lou Samsel.


Items for Sale --

We have the following items for sale to active HUG members, only. [Unclaimed items are available to non-members at slightly higher prices.] All items are used, unless othewise indicated. All items are believed to be in good working condition. Anything that proves to be nonworking after purchase may be returned for replacement or refund within 60 days of purchase. Free items have, of course, no warranty. No additional claims as to suitability, performance, or reliablilty are offered. [The stuff's dirt cheap, after all!]

These items are offered while existing supplies last.



  • Computer Components For Sale

  • Hard Drives, 500 Mb, used - $5.00
  • Floppy Drives, 3 1/2", Generic Style - $3.00
  • Floppy Drives, 3 1/2", IBM Style (no seperate power connector) - free
  • Processor Chips, Intel 486, various speeds - $3.00
  • Memory, 72-pin SIMMs, 4 MB - $1.00
  • Memory, 72-pin SIMMs, 8 MB - $5.00
  • Memory, 72-pin SIMMs, ECC (IBM type), 8 MB - $1.00
  • Cases with power supplies, AT style, various manufacturers - free
  • Software: MS J++ with Windows NT 4.0 (new - last one) - [SOLD]
  • Cables, floppy drive, flat ribbon type - $2.00
  • Cables, IDE hard drive, flat ribbon type - $3.00
  • Cables, SCSI drive, flat ribbon type - $1.00


The For Sale Components may be purchased at any workshop or at any other HUG meeting -- if plans are made to do so in advance of the meeting. Please call (or better yet, email) Lou Samsel well in advance to assure availability.

The proceeds from sales are placed in the HUG treasury.

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List of HUG Officers and Support Members



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Links to Other Sites

Computer User Groups

HUG's Home Page  |   APCUG's Home Page  |   ChicagoLand LUG  |   BayArea LUG  |   GLUE


Linux News

Linux Gazette  |   LinuxLinks  |   Linux Today  |   Linux News  |   Linux Planet  |   SlashDot

FreshMeat  |   CNet Linux News  |   TheRegister


Linux Documentation and Tutorials

Linux Documetation Project  |   Linux Tutorials  |   Linux Newbie Organization  |   AboutLinux.com

LinuxLinks   |   CNet Linux Message Forum  |   TheLinuxGurus


Linux Releases

Mandrake  |   RedHat  |   S.u.S.E.  |   LurboLinux  |   Corel Linux


Linux Vendors

Linux Planet  |   Linux Mall  |   Linux Apps  |   Linux Central  |   CheapBytes


Windows Sites

We need a list Windows related links -- See the Wanted or For Sale section of this newsletter.




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APCUG Logo HUG is celebrating its 20th Anniversary in 2003.

HUG has been an APCUG member for 18 years and is a charter member.



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Last Modified: March 10, 2003